Poll - which is best?

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Which do you prefer - Analogue or Digital in relation to amateur radio?

Analogue
4
80%
Digital
0
No votes
No preference - Either
1
20%
 
Total votes: 5

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Poll - which is best?

Post by G8NZR » Sat Jun 27, 2015 8:37 pm

This poll is to get an idea of which mode amateurs prefer.

With the trend changing towards digital working, which do you personally like the best?

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Re: Poll - which is best?

Post by GaryM1EGI » Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:03 pm

I think having an analogue input option to the repeater would give it more scope for use...
As a rule amateurs have analogue transmission equipment and to obtain and build on this front is far easier/cheaper.

As for reception there is no real issue with digital.

Just my thoughts,

Gary (M1EGI)

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Re: Poll - which is best?

Post by M0DTS » Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:22 pm

Typical 4Ms Digital has the advantage of getting a workable signal when analogue is marginal.
Analogue gets the job done in poor conditions and great for Contest qso's!

Reduced Bandwidth Digital wins every time.

Latency is a big issue though with Digital if you ever do go to full duplex.

Rob

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Re: Poll - which is best?

Post by Ken » Mon Jul 06, 2015 10:09 pm

Hello all, Nice to see this repeater come alive.

Having so much gear for ATV sat there not being used since the loss of the GB3ET repeater some time ago means I would love to see anything back on air that i might be able to use. I am sure I am NOT the only one.
If its Analogue then it would be a simple job of dusting off my equipment , checking or sorting out aerials and away we go.
If its digital, then I would forget it. Having invested £££ in my gear and hours and hours of time building it .... then having to start all over again making digital and spending more ££££ would be out of the question.

Maybe later I would have a go at digital but for now , please make it as simple as you can

Thanks

update: as of 2020 im on DATV 2mtrs up. I succumbed !

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Re: Poll - which is best?

Post by G8NZR » Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:09 am

Ken wrote:

> If its digital, then I would forget it. Having invested £££ in my gear and
> hours and hours of time building it .... then having to start all over
> again making digital and spending more ££££ would be out of the question.
>
> Maybe later I would have a go at digital but for now , please make it as
> simple as you can


Hi Ken

Unfortunately it's going to be digital only at present. We did request analogue as well, but the NOV was for digital only.

We do have plans for the future which may include analogue receive, but it will still be digital transmit. You can receive very easily using an old digital sat receiver - providing it has manual access to the various settings. There are other plans for the future, but for the moment, getting the repeater on air is the main priority and it looks like the first weekend in August now.

Just for information, there is nothing to link the new GB3YT with the old system from many years ago... We applied for the disused callsign as it indicated 'Yorkshire Television'.

Good luck, Kay

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Re: Poll - which is best?

Post by Ken » Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:59 am

Thanks Kay, Rather a long wait for my reply. Sorry.
I enjoy looking at the repeater stream, at least now and again.
Nothing to do with YT ( or even the old YT) . I note that the NOV for the Barnsley Repeater GB3ZE lapsed.
this was local to me and NEVER really got off the ground. It was on transmit beacon only for a short while.

I have been off air for a few years but wondering what the position is for 2.4ghz analogue repeaters is now ?
In respect of new applications or resurrecting a previous one such as GB3ZE.

I did in the past try to gain access to the small group that were attempting to launch GB3ZE but they were a very closed lot and even though they never got the thing up and running, they held on to the licence. This meant there was never any chance of applying for anything else in this area when I NOV was active.
It would be very easy for me to setup a 13 or 24 cms analogue repeater as I have 90% of what's needed including the logic synch detector, cavities , antennas etc.

So, have you any thoughts ? What do you know ?

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Re: Poll - which is best?

Post by G8NZR » Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:32 am

Hi Ken

13cm is very much 'up in the air' still with the changes announced by Ofcom. The majority of repeaters using 13cm are having (or have) changed frequency since a big portion of the band was taken away from amateur use.

I personally would stay away from 13cm since there are also a lot of video transmitters, computer mice etc that use this band and could cause interference... but that’s just my thoughts. If you are considering 13cm, then you need to do some serious homework regarding frequency allocations etc.

GB3TT is also currently being resurrected in Sheffield, so if ZE gets back on air we shall have a few ATV repeaters available to use in the Yorkshire area!

73 Kay
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Re: Poll - which is best?

Post by Ken » Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:28 pm

G8NZR wrote:
> Hi Ken
>
> 13cm is very much 'up in the air' still with the changes announced by
> Ofcom. The majority of repeaters using 13cm are having (or have) changed
> frequency since a big portion of the band was taken away from amateur use.
>
> I personally would stay away from 13cm since there are also a lot of video
> transmitters, computer mice etc that use this band and could cause
> interference... but that’s just my thoughts. If you are considering 13cm,
> then you need to do some serious homework regarding frequency allocations
> etc.
>
> GB3TT is also currently being resurrected in Sheffield, so if ZE gets back
> on air we shall have a few ATV repeaters available to use in the Yorkshire
> area!
>
> 73 Kay
> G8NZR

Hi Kay,

Well, to update on previous. I did access YT a couple of times while /M a few hundred yards from it.
Ive tried several times from home on 23cm with beams and a bit of power but its a NO GO.
Today i used 70cm , 20 watts into my white stick and still no joy.
As of today GB3TT is still in beacon mode despite megga efforts by Gary M1EGI. ( many have gone before him )
Im receiving EY OK and for the moment thats in beacon mode but as this year progesses into better weather it might
get to be a full repeater. Fingers crossed I can access it.
To be honest I think YT is not receivable anything south as I went out /m and with a long beam and whilst on some hilltops
it is receivable, in the main, if your not sited right on the top of a hill theres no signal at all SOUTH.
Thats understandable though, due to the Hill at Grange Moor roundabout and the ridge that carries on eastwards from there.
In fact, later tests of anywhere south of M62 down the M1, have proved fruitless.
All the "active" ATVrs are south Gary M1EGI, Brent G5TV, Dave G4TMZ & Myself all in Barnsley + Ray M0MLJ further south in Bolsover.
Graham G8VAT is East but just cant quite get YT at home either.
I dont know of anyone on ATV , say within 40 miles north of M62/M1 only yourself & Graham. ( not G8VAT ).
Thats a shame and possibly why Ive not seen anyone using it , other than /P on activity days, that would be Rob.
I know of several Hams who would be easily on ATV if they could "see a repeater". Alas they are like us, to the south.

Best wishes. Ken G8VDP

Update 15th May.
Thanks Kay for reply posted on NEWS page re your confirmation that 70cm receive is OFF.
I had ticked "Notify me when a reply is posted" (i didnt see that reply for a while due to it not being on this thread).


We are some weeks into Covid Lockdown but now we are coming into ** lockout **. once its been fixed. I look forward to having another go on 70cm.
Good luck & stay safe.

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